No episode of this podcast has taken longer, suffered more setbacks, or caused more frustration than this episode. And none has caused more concerned feedback from fans as its hour approached. That’s because this episode is about scary, scary clowns.

Well, actually it’s not. It’s about an arbitrary space spider who sometimes dresses like a clown and we brought along a real clown, Barnum and Bailey’s Clown College graduate, Rob Torres. Rob talks to us about how the perception of his business has changed and who the real culprit is (hint: not this movie and not ICP).

I think it’s a real good episode, but even if it isn’t, don’t worry. It’ll float. They all float down here.